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Ep #13: Randy Hunt (Notion & SVA): Speed as a Quality Strategy, Killing the Handoff, and Teaching Design in the AI Era
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Tom and Jonny sit down with Randy Hunt, Head of Design at Notion and chair of MFA Design at SVA. They dig into why speed and quality were never a trade-off, unpack the weekend build that turned into a two-week code review, and go behind the scenes of how a graduate design programme is rewriting itself around AI.
Chapters
- 0:04 — Two institutions, one calendar: how Randy keeps both plates spinning
- 3:00 — Agents that absorb the busy work so he can stay close to the craft
- 5:29 — Dogfooding vs. knowing the competition: you have to do the work twice
- 8:22 — One place for everything, or a walled garden? Jonny re-buys Notion
- 11:10 — Battle-tested vs. multi-model: why living in one suite stops working
- 13:22 — Good, fast, cheap: Randy refuses to pick two
- 15:17 — Quality isn't the screen being right, it's how many people hit it wrong
- 19:05 — The handoff is a telephone game: why passing the baton kills the work
- 22:52 — Designers were shipping production code before the coding agents arrived
- 25:42 — He built it in a weekend. The PR took two weeks to review
- 29:35 — Writing code got cheap. Writing good code didn't
- 30:46 — Emergent chat vs. written-down skills: making the system legible to everyone
- 33:07 — Working in the open so you can see how your colleagues actually prompt
- 35:42 — Build it yourself or wait for someone to sell it: micro tool making
- 39:04 — The barbell curriculum: what endures vs. what has to stay malleable
- 43:20 — Directing a photographer vs. directing a model: same skill, different studio
- 44:57 — Where's the punk rock student who refuses to use AI?
- 47:58 — He went home for the summer and built an ERP for his dad's warehouse
- 49:33 — Quick fire: AGI takes over, so what do you actually do with the time?
- 51:37 — Wrap up, and a promise to come back for the music conversation
Mentioned in the episode
Randy
- Randy J. Hunt — https://www.randyjhunt.com
- Randy on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/randyjhunt/
- Product Design for the Web (New Riders, 2013) — https://www.randyjhunt.com
- SVA MFA Design, where Randy is chair — https://design.sva.edu
- Randy speaking at Hatch Conference, Berlin, September — https://www.hatchconference.com/speakers/randy-hunt
Companies and past roles
- Notion — https://www.notion.com
- Notion Agents, his current favourite app — https://www.notion.com/product/agents
- Etsy — https://www.etsy.com
- Artsy — https://www.artsy.net
- Grab — https://www.grab.com
- Deliveroo — https://deliveroo.co.uk
- Uber Eats — https://www.ubereats.com
Tools and products discussed
- Claude — https://claude.ai
- Claude Code — https://claude.com/product/claude-code
- Claude Cowork — https://www.anthropic.com/product/claude-cowork
- MCP (Model Context Protocol) — https://modelcontextprotocol.io
- ChatGPT — https://chatgpt.com
- Google Gemini — https://gemini.google.com
- Google Workspace / Google Sheets — https://workspace.google.com
- Slack — https://slack.com
- Figma — https://www.figma.com
- Weavy, acquired by Figma and relaunched as Figma Weave — https://www.figma.com/blog/welcome-weavy-to-figma/
- Paper — https://paper.design
- Pencil — https://pen.dev
Events
- Hatch Conference, Berlin, September — https://www.hatchconference.com